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Asian countries don’t like each other much but they like America

September 12, 2007
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If this survey by the Pew Global Attitudes Project (conducted in China, India, Japan, Pakistan, Russia, and the United States from March 31-May 14, 2006) has any value at all, then we Asians sure have some negative attitudes towards our neighbors!

As many as 7987 people were sampled in these countries (details at the end of the post) and these are the main findings…but before I begin I want to clarify that no, I don’t see these findings as edicts carved in stone. Every study has its limitations and frankly I find studies better than simply talking to people one knows. At the same time, I don’t believe the conspiracy theories that some people surround such studies with. Inefficiencies and faulty methodology can happen, yes..but for the sake of discussion let us assume that this study is at least a pointer to something.

So here goes:

Who likes Whom?
1. The majority of Japanese (71 percent) dislike China and an equal number of Chinese (70 percent) dislike Japan.
2. The majority of Indians (67 percent) are unfavorably disposed towards Pakistan and these feelings are heartily reciprocated by 50 percent of the Pakistanis (towards India), although quite a few said ‘don’t know.’
3. Although neither the majority of the Japanese (49 percent, but quite a few don’t know) nor the majority of the Chinese (42 percent, but many don’t know) like Pakistan, an overwhelming number of Pakistanis (69 percent) like China and almost half (43 percent, but many don’t know) like Japan.
4. A majority of the Japanese (65 percent) like India but a large majority of the Chinese (43 percent, but many didn’t know) don’t like India.
5. Interestingly, Japanese people think unfavorably of North Korea, but the Chinese don’t! So the Japanese are different from the Chinese in their view of North Korea and India. But both the Japanese and the Chinese see South Korea in a positive light.

However, the study also shows that despite the negative views the Chinese and Japanese hold about one another, the majority of people in both countries do not see each other as adversaries. However, a significant section of the population does – 31 percent of the Japanese see China as an adversary and 33 percent of the Chinese see Japan as an adversary.

What do Asians think of the United States?
Well, the Indians (56 percent, but 16 percent don’t know ), the Japanese (63 percent, but 2 percent don’t know) and to some extent the Chinese (47 percent, but 10 percent don’t know) like America. Predictably Pakistanis (56 percent, but 17 percent couldn’t say) don’t like the US much.

The chart is given below:

China’s military power has the others worried
Almost all the Japanese are worried about China’s growing military strength and the majority of the Russians and Indians as well.

Naturally, 95 percent of the Chinese are pretty cool about their “rising military might.”

The Chinese are more skeptical about their economic growth than the others
The Chinese may think well of their military might, and their economic growth, but only 37 percent of the Chinese actually believe that their country will replace the United States as the next world power…no, not even in the next 50 years!

That’s not what the others think. The majority (65 percent) of Indians believe that China will replace the US as the dominant superpower and so do 43 percent of the Americans themselves. The majority of the Japanese (59 percent) believe that China will never overtake the US.

This I think tells us a lot about how the media in each country portrays China.

And although Chinese newspapers are full of positive stories about their own economy, obviously the Chinese people are not inclined to believe that they are on their way to beating America!

As to positive or negative attitudes towards China’s growing economic prowess, the chart to the right explains it.

A little about the looming Nuclear Deal between India and the United States
75 percent of the Indians polled who had heard of the nuclear deal (62% had) felt positively about it, but only 27 percent of Pakistanis who had heard of India’s nuclear deal (about 25 percent had) reacted positively to it. 73 percent of Pakistanis are opposed to the deal.

Overall, I found this study very interesting, and I hope readers do too. :)

Note (From Pew Global): Survey is based on national samples, except in China, India, and Pakistan, where the sample was disproportionately or exclusively urban.
China – Sample size: 2180
India – Sample size: 2029
Japan – Sample size: 500
Pakistan – Sample size: 1277
Russia – Sample size: 1000
United States – Sample size: 1001
Total: 7987

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  1. Shefaly permalink
    September 12, 2007 10:27 am

    History gives wounds; but time evidently is not a great healer.

    As for attitudes to America, well one attack by America to sort our their lack-of-democracy issues and the attitudes may well change, don’t you think?

  2. September 12, 2007 10:37 am

    Shefaly, yes, China and Japan have a bad history together, and does India and Pakistan…
    I guess it will take several more generations for the wounds to heal. At times I think that even the wounds between Britain and India have not properly healed…

    And your statement that…

    …one attack by America to sort our their lack-of-democracy issues and the attitudes may well change, don’t you think?

    Absolutely true!

  3. September 12, 2007 12:44 pm

    I wonder what causes so many Chinese and Japanese to think China will never overtake America? That’s the trouble with polls — they don’t always give you much insight into why people think the way they do. Now, I’m going to be up all night wondering!

  4. September 12, 2007 1:54 pm

    Paul, the Japanese don’t think very highly of the Chinese, so that could be the reason. I did not mention it in the post as it would have got too cluttered, but the same survey tells us that the majority of the Japanese think of the Chinese as greedy, selfish and nationalistic, although they also think the Chinese are hardworking. And the majority of the Japanese do not think the Chinese are either modern or inventive!
    Although the Chinese hold similar negative views about the Japanese, they believe the Japanese to be modern and inventive. I hope this has answered at least one of your questions.
    However, as to why the Chinese are underestimating (I think) themselves I am not sure. Could it be a combination of income disparities in China and a distrust of the news? When we were in China I was quite friendly with the guides, hotel staff etc and always praised China as being modern and so economically ‘shining.’ They seemed surprised, and usually said nothing, making me feel as if I didn’t know what I was talking about! But our guide (I am not mentioning the town as he/she seemed nervous even about confiding this little thing in us) told us pointblank that it wasn’t true, there was too much poverty and suffering. But then this was just a conversation with one person…

    And if the post kept you up, thinking, well…I can’t ask for anything more! :)

  5. September 12, 2007 1:55 pm

    Interesting post!

  6. September 12, 2007 2:41 pm

    Interesting study. This gives lots of “food for thought” when thinking about the concept of “Asia”.

    The same goes in Europe (or used to beforre lengthy reconciliation efforts). European countries have been at war with each other since the Middle Ages, and of course, asking French people how much they “liked” Germany by 1960 was making sure to get very sour answers.

    What is very interesting is that the Chinese like Pakistan … or do no know if they like or dislike it (which could be condsidered asa good start, I am sure there are lots of things in Pakistan for the chinese to like ! And the other way around).

    Are the researchers stretching the idea of Asia here ? Somehow, the idea of “Asia” seems to have emerged fro European and eurocentrist Geography books dating from colonila times. Are we talking of one continent here ? What is the continuity between Pakistan and Korea ?

    I still wonder why people have no problem identifying Europe as a single continent, while they still say that America is one continent, where I see 2 continents, or even 3 if you consider the Caribbean and Central America.

  7. September 12, 2007 4:38 pm

    Nothing much in common with say Pakistan and Korea! Being on the same continent sort makes people club everyone together…but ofcourse you are right, there really isn’t much in common, except the fact that most of these countries are neighbors.
    Actually India is much like Europe in itself, with its distinctly different cultures and languages within different states. That is perhaps why even within India there is so much dislike for the ‘other.’
    In fact this dislike for the ‘other’ seems to be entrenched in human nature…but historical wars etc as between countries tends to drive the wedge deeper.
    It would be interesting to find out how Canadians and Americans viewed each other…as far as I know they don’t have a bloody history, but they are neighbors.

  8. madhu permalink
    September 12, 2007 5:08 pm

    Hey Nita, wanted to know if you have anything coming up regarding the fake sting operation and misfortune of the delhi school teacher.

    Actually, I am curious how clearly you project it!

    BTW, I have been reading your blog for a while now!

    Oh! and nice write up on “North-south CNN/IBN thing”.

  9. September 12, 2007 5:23 pm

    Thanks Madhu.
    Actually I will be writing on the broadcast bill, and will be mentioning this incident. The incident as such I do not see as too different from the corruption we see around us today, everywhere.
    p.s. on second thoughts, you have given me a better idea…something is forming in my mind, lets see what I can bake tomorrow!

  10. September 12, 2007 6:24 pm

    All these Asian countries are united by their collectivist culture, and can’t seem to rise above it. Hence, the racial and historic hatred that they feel for one another will possibly never disappear.
    When I say collectivist culture I refer to the fact that none of these countries culturally encourages individualism and freedom.
    Japan has changed more than the others, and is more Western, but their culture is distinct and strong. If you look at Western societies that encourage individualism and free thinking, this bias may be less palpable.
    However, racism has been a part of the West as well (and a more publicised feature at that), and hence I take all this with a pinch of ajino moto.
    Everyone is inclined to be racist, but some are free not to be, and some (like the Chinese) are too unfree to know better!

  11. Vivek Khadpekar permalink
    September 12, 2007 6:54 pm

    Alfred,

    Interesting observation, if I may paraphrase it as “How many Asias are there in reality?” I think the trouble is we have taken a concept out of geomorphology and applied it to the cultural landscape.

    It’s easy enough to discern at least four — possibly more — Asias. South Asia is seemingly a distinct entity if you consider India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Nepal, and the Maldives. Bhutan, together with some of NE India — notably Sikkim and Arunachal — and Ladakh in the North, are probably ethnically closer to the Sino-Tibetan realm, as is the Central Asian region comprising some of the countries of the former USSR and Mongolia. Then you have the more southerly parts of NE India, which have greater affinity with Burma and SE Asia. China, the Koreas and perhaps Japan are East Asia. And then there is the Arab world. Still awaiting pigeonholing are Iran, Afghanistan, North-Western Pakistan. And of course Turkey — is it Asia or Europe?

    To all patriotic fellow-Indians who read this post: the speculations above are purely ehnic and cultural. They do not take into account politico-administrative divisions nor, to any significant extent, physical geography. Please do not accuse me of intentions to Balkanise India. I hope I will not have to apply for anticipatory bail. :-)

  12. September 12, 2007 7:11 pm

    Like Rambodoc says, I believe that this collectivist culture also makes the Chinese (in particular) to downplay their own capabilities. These guys have no access to free thinking.
    From my little understanding of Canada, I found that the Canadians don’t matter for the Americans, and at the same time Canada won’t be prosperous had it not been the open border between the two countries. That said, US is now imposing (or preparing to) visa requirements and stricter border patrols even for the Canadian citizens.
    Another interesting observation from the stats – Only 77% Japanese seem to favor their own country!

  13. September 12, 2007 8:04 pm

    Rambodoc, that collectivist culture thing is an interesting thought. I guess we Indians too fall prey to it.

    Vivek, luckily you are in India, not China! :) You are free to hold any view you want!

    Priyank, thanks for that observation about Canadians. So I think Canadians might see the US as a bit of a bully too I guess.
    And yes, a fair number of Japanese sound cynical about their own country. The figures for India are not given, but I feel that given the kind of dissatisfaction in our country, there will be a lot of people who feel unfavourably towards it. The number of people who are trying their best to get out of the country today could be an indication. Actually even in China a lot of people are wanting to get out…but I think they have great national pride…I wonder if we Indians have it! I think we are more self-depreciating, not as proud as the Chinese!

  14. Shefaly permalink
    September 12, 2007 8:29 pm

    Rambodoc: You say “Japan has changed more than the others, and is more Western, but their culture is distinct and strong.”

    Pretty much every bit – change, more Western, culture distinct, culture strong – can be challenged in there. :-)

    For an interesting snapshot of the evolving Japanese society, I would recommend Murakami’s non-fiction work ‘Underground’.

    Nita: I know this is your blog and I did not read your comments policy. I hope it is not essential to address all comments to you as a ‘sutradhaar’. Thanks.

  15. September 12, 2007 8:50 pm

    Shefaly, the aim of the comments is a discussion, and whether it is between commentators or with me is immaterial. In fact at times I feel odd to butt in! My comment policy was installed several months after I started this blog, and after some very bad experiences I had (I mentioned that in a post you made on blogging) and it wasn’t just one experience, but several…of people abusing etc. In fact one well known blogger used an anonymous name and started abusing because I had written about some woman journalist (Tavleen Singh) who had refused to pay a fine after her dog shat on the road. But this man, who called himself Kaluram, started attacking me…luckily from his style of writing, I guess him to be a regular commentator on mutiny, where I also blog. So I simply checked the ip addresses and found them the same as a well known blogger, someone whose blog is even now very well known and listed! This person is supposedly a genteel person. Shocking isn’t it? At least I was shocked as all i had written was from a newspaper report, it wasn’t my own invention.
    Anyway, I have now gone totally off the point…but this upset me greatly then. After that I came out with a comment policy and put comments in moderation as I feel I am not capable of handling abusing comments and now I simply put these people on the blacklist so I don’t see such comments. Not just abusive, there are people who deliberately twist every word and hurl insults. Just recently (2 days back) I got one such commentator on my south india north india post! That is one hot post and I get most problematic comments there! And these people send about 7-10 comments in an hour! I really don’t have time for that sort of thing! All saying the same thing…fuck you etc etc, close down your website, etc etc.
    I guess I am a weak person, and cannot handle abuse.
    Anyway, sorry to veer off-topic!

  16. Vivek Khadpekar permalink
    September 12, 2007 9:01 pm

    Nita,

    If I were in China I can’t imagine myself even thinking as far as anticipatory bail! :-)

    And in this day and age, whatever the Constituion of India may guarantee, one has to really watch out for the jingoistic “I am more patriotic than you” brigade, out to make its point using methods approaching those of the Taliban.

  17. September 12, 2007 9:03 pm

    Vivek, I know what you mean. I cannot stand such holier-than-thou attitudes!

  18. September 12, 2007 9:58 pm

    In my opinion, the collectivist attitude explanation is too simplistic. So such cultures inhibits free thinking? Really? So that means not that much philosophy etc.?

    In any case, in Europe – what if you ask the mutual opinions of these:
    Poland/Lithuania/Slovania/Georgia (throw in Azerbaijan too) vs. Russia
    Greece vs. Albania
    Turkey vs. a host of other countries in Baltic region.

    Should we then conclude that “most countries in Europe hate each other” and look why?

    It would also be interesting to ask this combination also
    US vs Iran; US vs France

    The fact that many countries in Europe are able to “get past” Germany’s past is indeed good – but is it an exception? Or is it some indicator of “free thinking society”?

    But let me throw in my (perhaps equally simplistic ;) ) explanation. Countries that have done incredibly well for many decades generally have a positive view of things – particularly about themselves. Countries that haven’t – don’t.

  19. September 12, 2007 10:50 pm

    There was another study I was reading about yesterday, can’t seem to recall where. It said that Indians are the most nationalist people in the world. Some 74% think believe that their country has the best to offer in terms of growth, culture etc. I am trying to remember the link to substantiate my comment!.

  20. metroxing permalink
    September 12, 2007 11:16 pm

    As a Chinese American who has done business all over Asia (except for Pakistan), it is difficult to generalize but some comments:

    As from a current generation who has no immediate ill will towards the Japanese but from the older generation, the ill will go away to a great deal is Japan would just apologize for launching WWII in the pacific region. They claim they were jsut kicking out the western powers but they certainly went far beyond that in their treatment of southeast asia and especially in China. Why won’t they just apologize – Germany did and it goes a long way symbolically and psychologically. What is with Japan – do they feel they are the ‘elder’ as in most Asian countries and it would be beneath them to apologize to anyone ‘younger/lesser’ and/or someone they defeated militarily? It’s okay to kowtow to the US because the US defeated them militarily?

    China knows that they’ve essentially done the easy part – unshackling the middle class but what about the rural peasants – some 700 MILLION of them? They realize the road ahead is long – that if you stand in Shanghai, you can feel the flow of ideas, capitalism and money almost flowing in front of you like NY in 1955, the world and everything was possible but then you stand in Beijing during the sandstorm season and you wonder, how the hell can you rule the world when you can’t even see because of a sandstorm? What freakin’ century are we in?

    The citizens know that the gov’t rule is still caprious at times and unknown – that their personal and private lives have improved greatly – that as long as they go about their own personal lives, all is good but as you get richer and take on more of a role in the community, what then?

    Of course, it’s a topic that can be covered in 140,000 words and it still wouln’t be complete … because it’s all based on opinion … some based on facts, others not so much …

  21. Shefaly permalink
    September 13, 2007 12:21 am

    Nita: Thanks. Yes we discussed this earlier.

    I take it then it is ok to address other readers directly :-) Thanks.

  22. Shefaly permalink
    September 13, 2007 12:27 am

    Arunk: The European context is unique in the world, tied as most of them are by a supra-national body (the EU) that does not quite have sovereign powers but which manages to, by design, to influence the direction of sovereign power in the otherwise independent member states. The EU is not quite a trade bloc, nor a political union of any sort, nor just another regional association. It also enforces interaction in a significant way which forces negotiation, alliance forming and bargaining. It is difficult to generalise from such a unique context.

    As for Poland/Lithuania/Slovania/Georgia: I know Eurovision is not a valid base but Eastern European countries always vote en bloc, which should be some indication of the popular sentiment. It is also a fascinating study of us-and-them within the EU (I know not all are EU but many non-EU countires also participate in Eurovision).

    I am not sure I know what you mean by “getting past” Germany. But if you mean getting over Germany, I have my doubts. It is not fully over. It may never be, unfair as it is to Germans…

  23. September 13, 2007 6:31 am

    Nita, You actually used the F word??
    Even I don’t!! :-D

    BTW, the comments section in this post (as well as some others) has been as interesting as the main piece. I realise I have been very stingy in complimenting you on the quality of the posts. I appreciate the efforts you take to produce a journalistic piece, every time! Kudos!!

  24. September 13, 2007 7:30 am

    Priyank, somehow I meet a lot of people who say a lot of negative things about India…however, I guess being cynical does not mean one a lack of nationalist pride!

    Rambodoc, thanks. :)

    Metroxing, thanks for sharing your experience! Your point of view is very valuable. I know that Japan was the cause of many war atrocities in the region and understand how you feel. Yes, they SHOULD opologize…actually they have made some sort of mild opology, but that is not enough.
    I believe that the British should opologize for what they did in India, but unfortunately this is not a common feeling in India.

  25. oemar permalink
    September 13, 2007 7:30 am

    Well I believe the mainstream media plays an important part in tampering with general publics views. Even good news from the other side is presented with a pinch of suspicion. As I can see in US, people are still suspicious of Russians, Venezuela is considered as a new upcoming enemy though I am sure half of the people here wont be able to point out this country on a world map. Media shapes a lot of our views, whether you want it or not.

  26. September 13, 2007 10:04 am

    Dunno how we should take the “collectivist mind” cliche about Asians, and especially Chinese.

    Cliches are just that: easy ways to apprehend reality and shortcuts to avoid a close observation of reality.

    Somehow, how can I, a Westerner (and therefore a fierce and shameless individualist) understand the “collectivist mindset” of a Chinese person ?

    Isn’t sticking with the group the best way to make sure that ONE doesn’t end up alone and doesn’t ultimately fail ? Isn’t this brand of collectivism a peculiar way to care for oneself ?

  27. September 13, 2007 11:48 am

    Oemar, I think so too, about the important part played by the media. The only way is to have access to different types of media, sometimes from the ‘enemy’ territory. Just to see both sides of the issue. I too have a bias against some countries but am trying hard to get rid of it by reading all sides. It isn’t easy!

    Alfred, yes sticking with the group can be necessary for survival in some cultures. But often this is due to a fear of social ostracization, more than an actual belief.

  28. Vivek Khadpekar permalink
    September 13, 2007 3:52 pm

    Nita,

    “I believe that the British should opologize for what they did in India, but unfortunately this is not a common feeling in India.”

    … I don’t know about you, but most Indians who articulate such feelings would in fact like themselves to take over from where the Brits left off.

    And in any case, Britain today has the empire striking back in a way no one would have even dreamt of just ten years ago.

    Let bygones be bygones, I’d say.

  29. Oemar permalink
    September 13, 2007 8:51 pm

    Very true and I believe it… thats why I read one Pak’s newspapers Dawn everyday along with Hindu and TOI. It great to have two perspectives on the same news… try CNN and Moscow Times, you ll feel the real difference

  30. guqin permalink
    September 14, 2007 2:19 am

    I am a Chinese person came across this website, I hope my view is of interests:

    1)The dislikes between Chinese and Japanese are essentially different in nature and in depth from that between Indians and Pakistanis, and so are the likes between Japanese and Americans and that between Chinese and Koreans. Reducing the living history of deep humanity (especially that of unbearable sufferings) to a number is habit of modern western culture (kitsch). It is more meaningful why we asians have learnt to understand ourselves that way too…

    2) Are Chinese people underestimating ourselves? Today’s world is of a structure forced out by western civilization, the USA is its center of power. Yes, China can replace it, but can China change this world structure? It is meaningless to be another western power. The return of China is supposed to be a comprehensive one, not a snowball of money and guns. USA and other western powers are short-lived (USA already declining, merely after 70 years of superpowerhood), yet by Chinese standard, a dynasty alone should last a few hundreds years. I would say today’s Chinese people are aware of what they lack (knowing that the true China isn’t there yet). They are not underestimating, they are just humbled by the misfortune in the past 150 years and they are patient.

    3. About patriotism: Rabindranath Tagore later said that patriotism is still a western import. Much I agree with him! Patriotism is either blind (like the Americans) or bitter (like Chinese and Indians). In China’s and India’s good dynasties, we did not need to be patriotic.
    And one should not confuse confidence with patriotism. A true artist must believe in his superiority, so must a philosopher, otherwise how could he be serious to believe that he is realizing the truth, the Dao or the God?
    I am confident in China in most of her cultural dimensions, but I have no problem in valuing and admiring western physics/mathematics and Indian’s noble spiritual culture. I am not a patriot. I am too proud to be one.

    4. I am quite puzzled by the positive views on China along side with the negative views on China’s people from Indian side. There seem to be many prejudices involved. Not to defend my own people, Chinese people to my observations still seem quite inventive and more so independent, nothing like faceless people in a rigid society. One can look at China’s recent arts (Art, music (even pop songs), dance, film, drama, poetry…) and even “Beijing economics” to see this inventivity. China’s space project and military conception show her people’s independence too. For example, anti-satellite design shows a different approach to war (asymetry, less pollution and less mortality rate, unlike the USA/western big bomd approach). And Chinese people seem like a spantanious, vivid and friendly people. I don’t quite understand why we have this greyish image in India. Is it the western (especially the English speaking) media?

    5. About Japanese and British appologies: What they need to do is to CONFESS. To apologize is only a meaningless gesture. That is why China is unhappy about Japan.

    6. My overall impression is: we asian countries have been put in a western-dominated and westernized world structure. We intellectually, politically, even emotionally look at each other through the western lenses. So sometimes when we speak and act, we don’t speak and act like ourselves. We need to be more independent.

  31. September 14, 2007 7:33 am

    Gugin, thanks for that detailed comment.
    About why such a large percentage of Indians feel negatively towards China, well, you must remember that India and China have a history of a war together. A lot of negative feelings are built up during a war and this war was fairly recent. People in India are not sure about China’s intentions…
    Also the media (all media not just the English) talked about China’s claim on Arunachal. But if you ask me, I think coverage of China in the Indian media on the whole is not very much.
    But in all this it is about the government, not the people. Overall, the awareness about the Chinese people is very low in India. In fact that is why not many people even visit China as tourists. There is a lot of news here about America.
    Are these the same reasons why the Chinese don’t like Indians much?
    I agree with your point number 5. It is not possible to move on unless certain things are acknowledged. This is true in any relationship, even that of between two people.

  32. Vivek Khadpekar permalink
    September 14, 2007 3:01 pm

    Rambodoc,

    Regarding the “F” word, it may interest you to know that the Oxford English Dictionary first carried the word in its 2nd edition (20 vols.) published in 1989. It rounded off the entry with mention of the fact that the word first occurred in print (1503) in the poem “Brash of Wowing” by the poet William Dunbar (c. 1460-c. 1520).

    Among the several reviews of this edition of OED was one that appeared in The Guardian. The reviewer made special mention of this entry, helpfully adding the comment, “… How the human race reproduced before that date is not clear.”

  33. zhzh permalink
    September 15, 2007 9:12 am

    i am also a chinese. i totally agree what guqin said….in addition, i don’t understand what some of you say about collectivist culture which i think might be a popular concept 30-40 years ago………if you are able to read in chinese, you can browse chinese website to find that chiese people are “free” enough to think…
    chinese culture are greatly influenced by Confucianism, the essence of which is kindness, peace and harmony……………
    (nita: i like ur blog)

  34. September 15, 2007 9:15 am

    Hey zhzh, thanks for dropping by and sharing your thoughts. You are right, everyone is free…the only problem can happen when these thoughts are put into practice! I think in countries like India at least, even though people do have radical ideas, society puts a dampener on them. conforming to society’s values is important…in India at least.

  35. September 16, 2007 6:00 am

    Vivek,
    If you ever choose to write a piece on the F word (I think it is beyond Nita to do justice to it!) let me know. I will certainly do you proud in the comments section! :-)

  36. Vivek Khadpekar permalink
    September 16, 2007 6:54 am

    Thanks, Rambodoc, but I don’t think I’ll ever get around to writing a piece. Not that I am puritanical or bashful about such things, but they are more fun (I mean as far as “discussing” them goes) talked about with friends, over drinks, than written about. And of course the company has to be appropriate to such feast of reason and flow of soul.

    Incidentally, talking of writing about four-letter words, there is a very scholarly piece on the even more taboo “C” word that I chanced upon on the internet (as usual, when looking for something else that was very decorous and innocent — though I don’t think any knowledge can really be innocent: the Old Testament says it all). I had bookmarked it, but seem to have lost it while transferring data between comps. It is a monograph running to over 100 pages of pure text, including citations, footnotes etc. If I can locate it again I’ll give you a link. It will have to be via this blog, I suppose, if Nita does not mind.

    Finally, I would not dare to judge what is or is not beyond Nita to do justice. :-)

  37. Vivek Khadpekar permalink
    September 16, 2007 7:56 am

    rambodoc,

    my net reference seems to have dried up and shrunk, to about 40%. I did find the original which I had downloaded, but it had some half a dozen visuals — strictly decorative, the sort that even the most finicky censor would not find objectionable — added purely to break the monotony of the text, which I removed because the file size was becoming too large. If you want it I can send you the file, but maybe you’d first like to sample its content. You can Google the search term Matthew Hunt, followed by a right arrow and then the word that rhymes the surname. Then, if you do want the full essay, you could arrange to let me have the e-mail ID to which I should send it.

    Incidentally Matthew Hunt’s blog, which I discovered only today, seems worth visiting. Google will lead you to that too.

  38. September 16, 2007 10:03 am

    “You can Google the search term Matthew Hunt, followed by a right arrow and then the word that rhymes the surname”
    I tried Mathew Aunt, but no luck. Mathew Runt: same results. Mathew Kant also didn’t yield desirable results!
    Will try again!

  39. Vivek Khadpekar permalink
    September 16, 2007 10:09 am

    Rambodoc,

    Start at “A”, and go in the sequence as the Lord intended it. You could be third-time-lucky!

    Vivek

  40. Vivek Khadpekar permalink
    September 16, 2007 10:17 am

    While on the subject of rhyming, I might as well be blunt: Aunt does NOT make the grade, whether you pronounce it Englishically or Americanally. Hunt around a bit more; punt around in the logomantic limnata. You will be rewarded!

    Vivek

  41. Jason Simmons permalink
    April 21, 2010 9:29 pm

    believe me china is the next powerful country in 2012 usa is every day going down…….

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