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The four cities of China

May 26, 2007

This is the first in my series of articles on China. These are my own personal impressions of four Chinese cities – Beijing, Shanghai, Xian and Guilin. I have tried to compare them to Indian cities. I will be happy if you add your own impressions to the article.

This particular piece has become very long but I didn’t want to break up the post into several posts on different cities. My other write-ups on China will be shorter.

Introduction
The first thing that hits you when you visit China are the well laid out cities, their sparkling cleanliness, the tall buildings and the absence of crowds! It was all unexpected, at least the lack of crowds. China has the highest population in the world at 1.3 billion but clearly the people are not concentrated in the main cities and anyway, the country is so huge, and the cities so spread out that the large population can probably be absorbed.

India, with its billion strong population seems vastly crowded as compared to China. All our cities are choc-o-bloc with people due to migration from the rural areas. In China there is rural migration as well, but I heard that the Chinese government controls it. People are not allowed to put up their shanties on pavements or on government or private land. In fact I read a news report which said that Beijing will be enforcing a population growth of an annual rate of 1.4 per cent, half of what it is now, and the population will not be allowed to cross 18 million. There are even suggestions to build communities for the old outside the city!

All the four Chinese cities that I visited were fancy – to my Indian eyes. The picture above was taken in Beijing, which is a beautiful modern city. I had had the impression that only Shanghai was modern, but no, even Beijing the capital is so. And not just Beijing. The modernity and westernisation is visible in the other cities too. Xian and Guilin. True, all these four cities are tourist cities, and it could all be an eyewash…but I don’t think so. The modernity was there to see and the cleanliness was real. Evident even in the poorer quarters. Cleanliness and discipline seem to be qualities well ingrained in the Chinese people.

The iron hand of the government was evident everywhere ofcourse. People dare not litter. People dare not break the traffic rules. People are careful here. And patient. All cars wait patiently in line at the toll booths. And no horns! They don’t need signs to tell them don’t use horns, people just don’t – not even in a traffic jam. This was so unlike India! Wasn’t China at least a little like India? Well, not in the looks and the sounds of the cities.

Beijing
Beijing, in the northern part of China, is a cold, shiny city, kind of brand new. New buildings being built everywhere and not just apartment blocks but hotels and large complexes. But hey, the ugliness of construction is invisible to people on the roads. Every single building under construction (in all the four cities) was wrapped in blue and if there was any debris I didn’t see it even though we walked on the pavement right outside.

In India, ugly constructions are visible everywhere and builders don’t bother to remove debris even after the job is done. I couldn’t help feeling a little sad. Why can’t we enforce rules on the developers and builders? I know there is a law which imposes heavy fines on builders who leave debris lying around…but it doesn’t seem to work.

I liked the fact that when the Chinese authorities build flyovers, they make sure to protect residents living in nearby buildings from sound pollution (these were seen in all four cities) as seen in the picture below:

Beijing is preparing for the 2008 Summer Olympics and the stadium is being built in the shape of a bird’s nest:

In Beijing there is not a speck of dirt anywhere, not even in the tourist areas which were thronging with people. I looked. And looked. They clean everything constantly! Considering that the city hosts over 15-16 million people (China’s second largest city), I thought this was pretty good show. Fines for littering are strictly enforced.

A taxi driver told us that just about 15 years ago Beijing was nothing, it was poor. All the flyovers, the buildings, in fact everything has been built recently. You can see the newness of it all. Old buildings pulled down. New ones built. I do not know what Chinese cities were like 20 years ago, but the fact that most of the buildings in all the cities look new, I guess everything has been rebuilt. If China has achieved all this in just about 20 years hats off to them.

I guess the speed with which China has achieved this cannot be replicated in a democracy like India. Pulling down even one old building creates a lot of protest and several court cases. Also poor tenants are given a lot of importance, they have to be re-housed. Even if one tenant protests there are legal complications and delays.

One good thing about the Chinese cities – in the hectic building spree the Chinese have left plenty of open public places for people. Several public gardens, wide pavements without hawkers, places outside malls with benches to sit on. And look at these buses. These are the government buses for ordinary people. At first I couldn’t believe my eyes. These buses seemed so first world but they were in China. And not just in Beijing and Shanghai – but in other cities too.

It’s the pollution that took me aback. Beijing is so polluted that my eyes started to smart. The smell of it is strong in the air. An article in a recent issue of the Economist says that the Chinese government is taking cars off the roads (cars with odd and even numbers allowed on alternate days) to reduce the pollution levels in Beijing – all to impress the hordes that are going to descent on the city next year during the Olympics. Well, when the government decides to do something, they succeed. But the truth is that China is growing so fast that pollution control measures have not been put in place. There were newspaper reports of growing cancer rates.

To a limited extent one can compare Beijing to Delhi. Wide roads, flyovers and the general impersonal and formal atmosphere. Wealth and power seemed to matter a lot here.

We traveled by train from Beijing to Xian. And got an opportunity to see the countryside. The villages we saw on the way were clean and neat. Even the distance between houses was equal, they were all built with a design in mind. These people were poor but they were hard working. In the early hours of the morning we saw men and women out in the fields – exercising!! Never seen anything like that in my life. There was poverty, but poverty doesn’t necessarily mean dirt. That is what we in India seem to believe. That poverty and filth go together.

Xian
I liked Xian (pronounced Shian or Sian) the best, inspite of the pollution. In the picture you can see the haze over the city. Xian has a power plant in the city and the city also happens to be the largest industrial centre in that part of the country. It lies west of Beijing, in the interior.

It is a cultural centre, with a history of 3000 years. The city has character. Plenty of old buildings and quaint architecture. It’s not crowded – just over 8 million people. There are a lot of students from other parts of China in Xian as it is known for its academics. Not as many colleges as Beijing and Shanghai’s ofcourse, but its a place thats cheaper to live in. There was a lot of new construction happening in this city too and the new apartment buildings coming up are expensive, similar to Indian real estate prices.

If one has to compare this city to any in India, I guess I would say maybe Bangalore, maybe Pune. Not the looks of the city ofcourse as Xian is not crowded and nor does it have traffic problems. In sheer beauty it wins over most Indian cities. The comparision can be made purely because of the feel of the city, its history, and the fact that it’s an industrial and academic centre. Software is coming up here too.

Guilin

This city, in the south east of Xian, is a place of scenic beauty as it is surrounded by hills but at the same time is as modern as the rest of the cities. It is the least polluted of all the cities we visited. It has a population of less than 1.3 million, and is on the bank of the Li River. It is a beautiful well planned city. Wide roads, open spaces, big gardens, tree lined avenues. The picture below is that of a mall and the tables outside are for the public to sit on..it is not a restaurant. Its for the poor and the rich alike but as you can see there are hardly any people there. We sat there for a long time, looking at the people. In India such a place would be too crowded to be in.

I couldn’t think of any Indian city that Guilin could be compared with. Chandigarh maybe?

Shanghai

On the banks of the Yangtze River on the eastern coast of China, lies Shanghai, China’s commercial capital. It has awesome buildings and all seem to have unique designs:

The city is crowded and dirty if one compares it to other Chinese cities, but not crowded by Indian standards and certainly not dirty. Its just that by now I was looking around to see some kind of litter and actually managed to see scraps of paper lying about! No real dirt though. No open drains, no shit and urine on the roads like in Mumbai even though this city seems to contain a fair amount of poor people. Even the shanties which dotted the city were cleverly barricaded from view. I peeped into one narrow gully which housed some so-called slums. Yes, there were unpainted and shabby rickety houses with clothes hanging out of the windows (the picture on the left is not an example of that) but there was cleanliness. No stink at all. The paths which led inside were clean and well swept. The fact is that no one, absolutely no one uses the city as a toilet. Waste is thrown into dustbins. Fines are strictly enforced.

I guess a westerner will take all this for granted, but we Indians can’t. After all Shanghai is is China’s most populated city, with about 20 million residents, the ninth largest in the world. But its been kept clean.

However, the city reminded me instantly of Mumbai. The scurrying people, the general buzz. Some of the architecture reminded me of Mumbai too, but ofcourse most of the buildings in Shanghai are plusher. I did see some hawkers in the inside lanes but they were few and far between. But looking at Shanghai I can why our politicians compare Mumbai and Shanghai and can understand their desire to turn Mumbai into Shanghai. I am not sure how this is possible because there is no strict enforcement of anything here.

The warmth, the friendliness of the people in Shanghai is in contrast to the cool atmosphere in the other cities. People smile more easily here and wear more casual clothes. Its the people which give a city its personality and Shanghai is warm, friendly and helpful.

Written a few hours later: I forgot to add something. There were no stray dogs in China! Not a single one! And in these four cities we were driving from one end to the other, and in smaller lanes too, for shopping and for meals. And what was really strange was that there were no birds! Not a single one except in Guilin where one heard a distant chirp. I am still trying to figure out the complete absence of birds. It wasn’t cold out there. It was summer and the skies were blue and the weather superb.

(All pictures have been taken by me in the last 8 days)

Related Reading: The Chinese people
Food in China
What tourists can expect in China
China and India – an inevitable comparision
China’s claim to an Indian province is preposterous
Ex-Governer of Hong Kong (Patten) talks about the future of China ten years after it was handed over to the Chinese.

50 Comments leave one →
  1. SANDHYA permalink
    May 27, 2007 7:29 am

    It feels like we have been and seen china closely thru your eyes .Thanks
    your blog has touched many lives ,mine ofcourse in different enriching ways .Thanks again

  2. May 27, 2007 7:40 am

    Thanks Sandhya for your very kind words. I am glad you enjoy my writings.

  3. May 27, 2007 6:03 pm

    Nita ,

    You touched upon that when building new fly overs, chinese take care of things like noise pollution for near by residents.
    This is something most western countries do but not in India.

    To add how chinese are building and getting help in terms of design and architecture , it is Australia. Not to mention that 2000 Sydney olympics team is helping china for last 3-4 years in big plan of things.

    Its good you saw the difference between china and india widening and we need to wake up soon. We need leadership like, AL Gore is providing on global warming.

  4. May 28, 2007 4:53 am

    The news reports suggest that rural China is not half that impressive. Due to communist rule they don’t have to worry about human rights and demolish and construct at their own will. Immigration to a city like Shanghai is also controlled, that helps in providing infrastructure.

  5. May 28, 2007 11:03 am

    True, there is poverty in rural China but I saw the people live in dignity. Not filth.
    Also whatever the bad things about communism (I am totally against communism) I thought that the fact that people in cities have the amenities they require to live as human beings is something very great. Pavements to walk on, open spaces, places to sit, comfortable buses which are not crowded, an efficient metro, a good train system (they didn’t have the British to set up their train network). We in Mumbai have to tolerate so much. Hawkers on pavements, illegal eateries dumping waste on the streets, shit and urine all over the place…I think Delhi is better in this sense.
    Also I forgot to mention in the write-up above, they have separate lanes for cyclists. So poorer poeple who can’t afford cars can ride peacefully without suffering the traffic. The main problem is pollution and I think they will tackle this as well. The development has simply been too fast.
    Also, as China’s GDP is growing rapidly the poverty is being fast alleviated. People even in rural areas are far better off than before.

  6. soorajrox permalink
    May 28, 2007 7:07 pm

    😀 no stray dogs ….wow, I heard that mumbai is taking measures about the stray dogs. Is it true? If true, that will be quite a step.

  7. May 28, 2007 7:13 pm

    Mumbai has big plans. They are hiring private agencies to enforce cleanliness. Well, once the system starts running smoothly then only we the public can breathe easy. The state government has taken measures to see that private agencies don’t harass citizens by making it compulsory for everything to be recorded on camera, every act of spitting or shitting.
    Hope it works.🙂

  8. May 29, 2007 2:40 pm

    Very nicely written, Nita…thanks for a wonderful bird’s eye (oh sorry, no birds!) view of China’s four major metros. Your posts on China are something to look forward to!

    Regarding absense of stray dogs, I guess there’s no Maneka Gandhi in the Chinese government!🙂

    One suggestion: in addition to the things you’ve said you’ll write about, please also include language. Are you are was any of your companions conversant in Chinese? How easy is it for an English-language-only tourist to visit China?

    • vekiyo permalink
      June 5, 2011 9:44 am

      well, maybe you have made a small mistake here.
      PS: it is easy for an english-language-only tourist to visit china, of course you should be sure your pronunciation is good enough at first. hehe““

  9. May 29, 2007 3:28 pm

    Thanks Mahendra.
    Yes definitely I am going to mention the language part.
    My next post will be on the Chinese people and this one is turning out to be long too!! In the next day or two. The language will be mentioned here in brief.
    And the post after that will be from the point of view of the tourist.
    Lots to write.🙂

  10. May 31, 2007 6:51 pm

    A good read!! Aptly reflected the actuals.

  11. john permalink
    July 6, 2007 9:09 pm

    My Freind was just in Shanghai, and he said there are no birds for the last ten years, apparently killed by pesticides?!

  12. July 6, 2007 11:12 pm

    When I read your comment John I got this very eerie feeling, the same feeling I got when I was looking for birds in China. It was so strange, not a single bird!
    I read in a newspaper report that China has used its political might to suppress a report from WHO about the high levels of pollution in its cities because it will cause “social unrest.” I was shocked. Social unrest is what is required to stop this increasing pollution!

  13. jim permalink
    September 3, 2007 10:52 am

    Nita, Reading your article was a pleasure. From the comments it sounds like the utopian look of China is hiding a nightmare like reality behind the scenes of environmental and human rights disasters. Thank you for your sharing of information with us. I wish both India and China prosperity and peace. from Abilene Texas, U.S.A.

    You are welcome Jim! – Nita.

  14. Chintan permalink
    February 26, 2008 8:24 pm

    Its real eye opener. We really need good town planners After JNURM I think money is not a problem but people friendly infrastructure is the need of the hour. In the name of democracy, we are playing very huge price Even a sincle sentence from Bal/Raj thackerey standstill whole Mumbai/India.

  15. sunil rathaur permalink
    April 21, 2008 4:54 pm

    it was a very nice reading enjoyed it. but the comparsion of city conditions when the population of both countries are same looks artificial. hope this conditions prevail for 10 years more.
    bye

  16. Jeff permalink
    June 25, 2008 2:26 am

    Hi, everyone, I’m a Chinese, I have been in Beijing for 8 years and in Shanghai more than one year(of course, i have gone to other cities also.). I agree most views in this article, but not for all. In objectively, Beijing is not that clean, actually, I think it is one of the most dirty cities of China, far more dirty than Shanghai (in my standard, I don’t know what’s the common standard for Indian.). And there is not bird in most of China cities that is true, because decades years ago(when I was very little), people killed all the bird because of an extreme policy, today people are realized it was wrong, but bird is infrequent from then on. Anyway, China is developed at very fast speed, not only Beijing and Shanghai, but also Guangzhou, Shengzheng…and other cities you guys may have never heard before. Compare to the cities in Canada, that I’m living today, the cities here are like countries. To the human rights and living environment, Chinese government improves great in the passed decades, though it is not good enough, but all things are under control and refreshed by daily.

    Thanks Jeff for this! What China has achieved is really immense and fantastic no doubt, but it is sad to hear about the birds. And compared to India, China is clean! – Nita.

  17. Vikram permalink
    July 18, 2008 4:45 am

    I liked this series of yours Nita. But dont you think its a bit unfair to compare Mumbai, an island city with no room to grow, trying to accommodate the entire unemployed population of a vast rural countryside to cities in China. I think (hope) the overpopulation problems in Indian cities will subside as more cities develop in the hinterland.

    Dont forget that there have been various ‘efforts’ to ‘redevelop’ slums in Mumbai. But they have been rebuffed by the slum-dwellers themselves, mostly because the slum locations as dirty and filthy as they are, provide them with easy access to their places of work. The slum dwellers in Mumbai may lack in ‘dignity’ according to us but they are definitely not lacking in political activism.

    Vikram, thats a good point Vikram. but if the Chinese have basically stopped migration. They are extremely strict and do not allow people to come into Shanghai. They don’t allow slums either. They are very strict and disciplined. – Nita.

  18. akash tomar permalink
    July 28, 2008 9:00 pm

    thanks nita for ur detailed blog about china’s four cities. and comparing them wid india. really its so said to me. why can’t indian polticians and people think to become the indian cities ac beijing or as shanghaai. atleast do try friends.

  19. August 29, 2008 9:55 pm

    cant indian cities go skyline .only 4% or less than that is invested in infrastructure.India can be better than china if changes are made;as both nations were at same stage 10 yrs back

  20. CHANG permalink
    January 22, 2009 10:02 am

    Actually the most beautifull cities in China are coast cities like Dalian, Qingdao, Zhuhai, Shenzhen and Xiamen, the four cities you visited just some culture plus big cities. If you have a chance to visit the cities above, I am pretty sure you are shocked by their mordon and beauty.

  21. Jim K permalink
    March 2, 2009 1:20 pm

    I’m Chinese and have been to many Chinese cities, and I totally agree with Chang. The cities he mentioned like Dalian, Qingdao and Xiamen are the most livable cities in China, while they are far less well-known to foreigners compared to places like Beijing and Shanghai. In my view, if Shanghai was New York City (huge, crowded, dirty), then Qingdao would be San Diego. I highly recommend a visit to those cities. Before I saw this post, I have never noticed that these was no bird …. but as I can recall it is true for the streets LOL. However, if you go to parks I bet you can see some🙂 One more point I’d like to add is about littering. I don’t think people don’t litter because of the fine. Actually I have never seen anyone being fined because of littering in my whole life. Chinese people just don’t litter much. And if you litter in public, you feel shameful.

  22. narkhil varghese permalink
    March 5, 2009 4:32 am

    I am Indian, and I visited both india and china in 2006.

    india is way way behind. China is far cleaner and modern than India. The mindset of the Chinese people is a lot better too – disciplined with good manners for the most part.

    As Nita said, poverty doesn’t mean ‘dirt’. Most Indians in India don’t have a faint idea of hygiene! We need to make science curriculum compulsory in the schools and make sure the education is practical based, not theory based. For eg: In India, the teachers teach ‘cleanliness is next to godliness’…but where did that create cleanliness in the Indian mindset?

    The whole fundamental structure of india has to change, not just desperate to build roads and buildings to compete with China…Indian maintenance is horrible – some things that really look good now will look like garbage a few years later. We have no computerization or modernization of anything, even though we have the largest # of computer programmers and engineers in the world.

    the only thing i suggest indians to not learn from China is the pollution. Other than that, India should learn from China, or better yet, Japan, the country that even humbles the west when it comes to technology.

    WAKE UP INDIA!

  23. Charlotte permalink
    April 8, 2009 6:34 pm

    So interesting to hear the perspective of someone like yourself! Coming from New Zealand and living in China I see quite a different country from you.
    I love it here and my family intends to stay for a number of years (we have been here three years already) so don’t get me wrong, but to us it does seem quite chaotic and dirty. It took us a long time to get used to it, to understand the traffic system, the hygiene and appreciate the people for the hardworking, friendly and honourable people they are.

    • November 15, 2009 11:17 am

      2009 April 8 Charlotte.

      I guess no countries in the world are perfect.

  24. Rein permalink
    October 24, 2009 1:50 pm

    Hi there,

    I would like to share some ugly pics of China, something which you have not seen:D

    A single communist party, which believes everything can be done by force, so but natural you will find cities cleaner, as that’s where people visit more. It is like covering the garbage dump with some cover and then polishing it, which would appear great to you, since you are not gonna look inside that polished cover!

    I believe it is bad to make comparisons.

    • November 15, 2009 11:06 am

      Rein, what you said is cheap shot.

      If you don’t talk frankly, how can India improve?

      You must admit India’s shortcomings; only then can India improve. Don’t you think so?

  25. vasudev permalink
    October 24, 2009 10:24 pm

    if only we had sanjay gandhi alive today we would have been looking at a different india…far…far surpassing china in every which way…unfortunately the hindu gods willed otherwise!

  26. November 15, 2009 11:32 am

    It is true that during the ‘Cultural Revolution’, a lot of birds were killed; but a lot of birds did survive. I can imagine that by now some birds could be seen in many places. The absence of birds in some cities are due to the absence of littered food on the cities, I think.

  27. Jeff permalink
    November 29, 2009 9:56 am

    This new CNN piece on Shanghai is pretty good, and compare it with Mumbai, it says a lot about how far India is behind China. If I remember correctly, Prime Minister Singh declared in October 2005 that India would turn Mumbai into a city better than Shanghai. Now five years later, what has happened to that pledge?

    http://www.cnngo.com/shanghai/eat/worlds-greatest-city-50-reasons-why-shanghai-no-1-590704

  28. Dean Wu permalink
    January 5, 2010 12:25 pm

    I am a Chinese. I cannot remember how I got to this page. Anyway, that’s not important. The important thing is that this blog article is very interesting. Thanks Nita for your beautiful writing.

    Here I would like to say from a Chinese point of view about this topic. First, most Chinese people, no matter men or women, like the looks of India girls. In fact, the looks of the Indian girls have been the symbol of beauty in Chinese minds for thousands of years, the symmetric layout and big eyes, especially the charming smiles are the most impressions of Indian girls to Chinese people.

    500 years ago, India had the most amount of gold in the world, people didn’t use US$ that time, they even had not invented US$ yet, therefore, India used to the most wealthy country in the world by the reserve of the gold.

    History proved that the whole western languages were derived from Indian languages, Indian culture was the mother of western culture. Besides, Indians taught Chinese what religion should be, it was Indian taught Chinese the faith and believe.

    Western countries invented sciences and technologies which finally changed the world globally. Without those early ideas and inventions from Scotland and England, the whole world today would be the same as 700 years ago. At that time, 700 years ago, Brits, Indians or Chinese were all filthy and dirty, at the same level according to today’s standard.

    Finally those western white people got rich and clean by industralization, but unfortunately, most other people had still been in dark age. They like the monkeys today lost the capibility to evolve.

    But Japan disapproved that. They got even more wealthier, richer and cleaner than white western people. After that, Chinese people in Hong Kong, Taiwan, Singapore and Koreans came up too from 1960s to 2000s.

    Now it’s China’s turn, China did nothing special except minicing what Japan had done before.

    But next century, it will be Indian’s turn, what Indian going to do, will be stronger and more meaningful than Chinese.

    So don’t worry about China, my Indian friends, India will lead the world again, like it did before. But unfortunately, the next 10 years will belong to eastern Asians (China and Japan) temporarily. India will take the lead after 2020.

    • MENG permalink
      August 2, 2011 9:53 pm

      Dean, I am afraid that I cant agree with you on many of your views even you are one of my people. 500 years ago, it was Ming Dynasty in China, and it was the most powerful and wealth nation on the earth at that time, I have no idea where you came out with India was the most wealth one at that age. It does not need to lower yourself to make others friends. About religion, you should know the difference between Buddhism and Hindu. Now today Indians are not the same people who created Buddhism. And also, far before Buddhism was introduced into China, there were already Taoism,Confucianism practiced in China for centuries. So, it wasnt Indian taught Chinese the faith and believe!

      What I cant understand is, why you have to lower your Chinese Dignity with those bull****?? We Chinese like to make friends, but NOT in that way!!

  29. CHN permalink
    April 4, 2010 5:16 pm

    GREAT CHINA,MY HOME TOWN
    !

  30. wang permalink
    April 5, 2010 9:02 pm

    Beijing has 15 million permanent residents and 5-10 million temporary workers. That’s why every Chinese new year, you will see news such as 3 billion Chinese are travailing around china in around 10 days.

  31. April 14, 2010 12:04 pm

    XIAN is a normal city in west china。
    The GDP of XIAN is the 30th in Chinese cities.
    Many other cities of west china is advanced and nice than Xian,for example Chengdu(where producted the fighter plane J10,13th in china),Chongqing(7th in china) and so on.
    GuiLin is the 95th advance city in China.

  32. Dev permalink
    August 8, 2010 9:31 am

    Nita, how come you said on Vikram’s blog the following,

    “I have been to China, although for a short while and talked to ordinary chinese people. We should not assume they are happier than Indians, in fact I would think they are less happy. They are always looking over their shoulder. The place is oppressive although I envied the women for being so free.
    You should have seen the fear they have for the police! It’s scary.
    I do not know whether it is the political system, maybe the Indians are happier because of our laid back nature, religiosity and other qualities, but the fact is that we are far better off in India. Ten times, a hundred times!!!”

    Dev, the bit that you quoted is from this post of Vikram’s
    http://vikramvgarg.wordpress.com/2009/01/03/oh-mr-gurcharan-das-please-spare-us-your-bullshit/

    What you quoted is irrelevant to this particular article but anyway there was no point deleting it as I am no longer that involved in this blog. However the answer to this irrelevant quote from an entirely different topic is given by me on that same post:

    I admire a lot of things in China but that doesnt mean I have no right to criticize it.

  33. Yifei permalink
    March 31, 2011 3:29 pm

    I dont know how come i opened this website,But as a chinese,in my view, most china beautiful places are not that city you talked.Chengdu ,chongqing,dalian ,these are beautiful city and also famouse as beautiful girls. China has 56 groups,every group have different style. And for most chinese,the true beauty is not in city.

    • sldk permalink
      February 18, 2012 7:11 pm

      ! am a chinese.I dont know why so many chinese like to show off around the world. Just like a child

  34. Ank permalink
    April 13, 2011 8:48 pm

    India has big problem coz of bad and corrupt politics

  35. 中国人 permalink
    June 2, 2011 8:58 pm

    你们好`欢迎来中国武汉

  36. Jiang Xiaobin permalink
    June 3, 2011 2:22 am

    Occasionally,I opened this website.China is not good as you wrote.Medical treatment,education and Infrastructrue construction is universally backward.College graduates here are under the big pressure of employment.The gap of wealth is very wide.One can not mortgage an apartment within 5-10 years after graduation.
    China ang India both have big population.They can learn from each other in lots of fields.
    Come on china.Come on India.

  37. chinese permalink
    June 3, 2011 12:30 pm

    I am a chinese! Nanjing also beautiful!Welcome to Nanjing! thank you!谢谢

  38. John Fang permalink
    June 3, 2011 12:54 pm

    Nita,the places you went are most famous cities in China, so what you saw is the most prosperous and beautiful part of China.
    West of China is not so good,particuly the people from mountain village are still struggling for living.

    • Kevin permalink
      August 16, 2011 1:11 pm

      I am a chinese lives in Guangzhou,which is another supper city of China,welcome to be here.

    • ahuzwl permalink
      February 19, 2012 1:39 pm

      Most cities in west china are cleaner.and more beautiful.but they are smaller.and grows very fast.

  39. jay permalink
    May 29, 2012 7:32 am

    Chaotic democracy is far better than Oligarchy. Freedom of expression in the filth is far better than civilian killing, freedom controlling government’s rule of rich living.

  40. criss Chen permalink
    September 29, 2012 6:29 am

    ! love indian moives ,especially the dance music. my english is not very well, but when I meet an indian, I want to say hello and talk with him. so beautiful culture and history it is!
    we are not foe, maybe competitor,but we can be friends in the future. By the way, chicken Masala is very good….starving

  41. Wang Wang permalink
    October 9, 2012 3:02 am

    Unlike India, China is not balanced geographically.

    4 cities in India are famous, North: New Dehli, East: Calcuta, South: Madras, West: Bombay. India has a balanced development. Even though India has been always been invaded from North, however the south region bounced back in technology. Bengali ,Telugu ,Marathi and Tamil are not the languages people can ignore.

    So New Dehli as the center for Hindi, Bombay as the center for Mumbaikar/even Gujra, Calcuta the center for Bengali, and Madras the center for Tamil or Telugu. Those 4 cities are almost equal in size and impact to the whole country.

    But in China, things are totally different, you indians cannot view Chiina in India’s way. China is very very unbalanced! The four cities, you mentions, are totally no comparison. The cities in the east, especially central east are dominant in China, alough some southern cities grow rapidly since they were the first adopping capitalism.

    The biggest cities in China are:

    Shanghai (East), Beijing (North), Suzhou(East), Guangzhou(South), Hangzhou(East), Shenzhen(South), TiangJin(North).

    There’s almost no city from western part of China in the top 100 most impact cities list. The city you mentioned Xian and Guilin are middle and small size cites and both are famous for their tourism.

    India, like a 4 color cake, different people, different culture, different languages, different food, even the skin color are so different, from quite fair to complete black.

    China, although made of different ethnic groups too, the manderin (Han) people take 96% of the population. All the politics, economics, culture, and language are completed dominated by Han people. All the big cities, top 50, are in the east coast of China.

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