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Listen to the voices of moderate Muslims

July 16, 2007

Unfortunately today its become common to hear people talk about terrorism and Islam in the same breath. And everyone seems to be asking: Where is the moderate Muslim? There are talk shows on this and there are news articles which compare what ordinary Germans went through after the Nazi regime. At the time there was a prejuduce against Germans …

If moderate Muslims are not raising their voices against the terrorists in as great a number as people wish them to, well I believe that many of those who don’t speak out don’t do so partly because they feel their religion itself is being attacked. It makes them go on the defensive. It could also be partly due to shock…after all that is why people are called moderate. People with moderate views like to go about their own business, and don’t like to speak out.

But in this post I want to quote those who do speak out. I found these voices in the blogging world. When I read them I was moved.

It was from Tariq’s blogpost titled Embarrassed by the lunatic fringe that I arrived at AE’s blog.

This is a quote from AE’s blogpost:

I’ve witnessed all this first-hand and have a religious duty to clarify… it was being moderate and stable in ones religion that I found to be the key salvation point of all practising Muslims from being swallowed up into the trap of takfīr and killing…. Indeed, the only thing in common between such people is how “deformed” their thought has become and just how little they knew in the first place, and just how little they know now. One only had to read a few passages of the infamous “Islamist” to see that, and one only had to hear the shocking perversion of His Book on Newsnight the other day by one such character to confirm it. So, the real common factor was a lack of stability. They were unstable then, and they are unstable now – like leaves floating around in the wind, changing religious direction with every puff as if Islam was some kind of a game. Just as such people were not to be trusted in their deviation then, we have little reason to trust them now.

To read the complete post, go here.

This is a quote from Tariq’s post:

The UK Doctors’ bomb plot, the Red Mosque standoff seem to be the straws that broke the camel’s back. Many of us were already feeling embarrassed by the actions of the lunatic fringe and their blood thirsty actions, but these two things seem to have taken the cake. This has been culminating for a long time as we get embarrassing news all the time, but a group of doctors try to kill and maim and a lunatic mullah uses children as human shields in a mosque. This on top of the past six years of near constant bad news since the 19 maniacs flew the planes into the buildings on 9/11. How many regular American Muslims are tired of having to explain such idiocy and irrationality at work and other places?

You can read the complete post here.

A quote from another post of AE’s:

Whilst watching the BBC last night with a Scottish worker describing the actions of one of the terrorists as, “…he clambered out of the car in flames throwing punches all over the place shouting out ‘Alla! Alla! Alla!’ whilst people were trying to help him put out the flames! It was then we realised…” I thought to myself just how many millions of people in this country must think that the word “Allah” is just some huge, sick joke.

Does it even matter whether this is accurate or not? Have no doubt that if it isn’t, there’d be plenty more maniacs to take the terrorist’s place as this is the mindset of those Muslims who have been smoking for far too long and have entered their own cloud-cuckoo-land which they call “Jihad”.… these are difficult times. I advise all those reading this with such sick terror plans and intentions to fear Allah and remember that they will be held accountable for their actions, even if they might get away with it in this life – smoking in the UK might have stopped for now, but soon it could be our entire community that’ll be going up in flames. And flames in the next life will await those who lit the flames here in the first place.

To read the complete post go here.

These posts have generated a lot of comments and they are very interesting to read. One can hear many voices, not just that of the writer.

9 Comments leave one →
  1. July 16, 2007 3:55 pm

    //Unfortunately today its become common to hear people talk about terrorism and Islam in the same breath. And everyone seems to be asking: Where is the moderate Muslim?//. Lots of moderate Muslims are trying to put their views across in London at least. There were full page advertisements in the newspapers condemning the recent attempted bomb attacks.

  2. B Chopra permalink
    July 16, 2007 4:15 pm

    Hey, Nice reference to those meaningful posts..

    Not just a particular community.. Every community leader has to raise similar voice against Voilence.. Be it a Armyman or any soldier or any common man who has suffered or made people suffered. JUST STOP VOILENCE.. We all hate it..

    I think spiritual leaders could do better job than anyone.. or leaders like Mahatma Gandhiji who were successful in spreading Ahimsa(Non Voilence).

    See this -> found on

  3. July 16, 2007 10:15 pm

    To call few muslims, moderate is absurd. Islam preaches peace and its followers are called Muslims.
    To call few radical others moderate and few other practicing Muslims are new age terms, invented to malign Muslims on whole.
    Islam is religion of peace & those who perpetuate terrorism should be seen as just any other criminal as Okhlahoma city bomber.

  4. July 16, 2007 10:41 pm

    Mr. Khadak Singh, Excuse me! I have not called ‘few’ muslims moderate. This is the second time you have misunderstood my post! Its clear that I said the majority of muslims are moderate…moderates are always in the majority. extremists are always in the minority. I thought this was a given…
    I have no idea what you mean when you say:
    //To call few radical others moderate and few other practicing Muslims are new age terms, invented to malign Muslims on whole.//
    Moderate is an English word, it does not apply only to Muslims!! To say that it applies only to Muslims is certainly the most absurd thing I have heard!
    And ofcourse terrorists are criminals who don’t belong to any religion. I have a separate post on this. I thought my views on that are crystal clear.
    Please read my comment policy. You can make a mistake once, maybe twice, but if this happens again I will construe the misinterpreting of my post as malicious.

  5. July 16, 2007 10:43 pm

    Thanks for the post. There are many of us that reject that type of lunacy. I think you will find that more and more of us will speak out against this

  6. July 20, 2007 3:17 pm

    I liked the way you placed the word MODERATE for Muslims; who have nothing to-do with terrorism what so ever, who by the way are large in numbers. But damn they don’t make any headlines as people and media in particular always have an ear for something sensational. I think by labeling a particular religion moderate or an extremist is offensive.

    Its like referring an African American as a nigger. People/ Media who is indirectly spreading the hate message are also contributing to terrorism and sadly are no better.

  7. October 11, 2007 9:56 am

    “Gradually–painfully gradually–people are beginning to see that islam is the enemy. Period.”
    The above quote is one of the milder examples of how many Westerners view Islam these days. This quote is a part of the comment to the article titled “Why We Cannot Rely on Moderate Muslims.” posted on the Gates of Vienna blog. The article talks about radical Muslims in the West claiming to be moderates. It also brings up very interesting points. “[T]he government and media are avid to find moderate Muslims — and as their desperation has increased, their standards have lowered.”, “The situation is complicated by many factors, including, taqiyya and kitman”, and “How can we ever trust assurances from self-proclaimed moderate Muslims when deception of non-Muslims is so widespread, and lying to infidels is an accepted and established way of hiding Islamic goals? The answer, with all its difficult implications, is: We can’t.”

    But that’s where the Gates of Vienna is wrong. The main problem is that the term ‘Moderate Muslim’ is poorly defined. There is a clear distinction between a ‘Moderate Muslim’ and an ‘Islamist’ and the distinction is in the ultimate goal. An Islamist believes in Islamic Supremacy. Islamist terrorists and their supporters want to achieve it by waging Jihad. Non-violent Islamists want to achieve it by peaceful and democratic means. The means are different, but the goals are the same: Islamic World Domination. Moderate Muslims do not believe in Islamic Supremacy. For someone not very familiar with the subject, the distinction may be subtle. But in reality, it is the most important, because everything that Democracies hold dear is based on this distinction. This is the Koran vs. the Constitution, Islamic State vs. Secular State, and ultimately, Dhimmitude (Subjugation to Islam) vs. Freedom. I cannot stress enough how important this distinction is!

    Now, comes an uneasy task of weeding out false moderates. Hopefully, with a clear definition of a ‘Moderate Muslim’ that task could be a lot easier. Coming back to the title of this post. Muslim community as a whole is not the enemy. Part of it is. A large part. But not all of it. The next time you ask yourself a question “How can we ever trust assurances from self-proclaimed moderate Muslims?” don’t trust their assurances; look at their record. No matter how well false-moderate Muslims such as CAIR or MPAC polished their facades, they have a record. Whether it is their support of terrorism or advocating Islamic supremacy, any Islamist group or figure who’s been around long enough, at one time or another has shown its/his/her true face. Just because some government official or some talking head declares someone to be a moderate Muslim, it doesn’t make it so. There are several counter-terrorism and Islam experts who keep track of Islamists. Most of these experts happen to be non-Muslim, but there is also a list of moderate Muslims who could be used as trusted sources for these inquiries. The list of those prominent Muslims is posted at the upper right corner of our blog. So now, my non-Muslim friends, when you have the tools to identify REAL moderate Muslims, you can no longer use your ignorance as an excuse to declare that Islam is the enemy.


  8. vasudev permalink
    February 26, 2009 10:34 pm

    the problems with moderates are that they do not have a strong voice. like parliament elections in india those that matter hardly vote and those who vote hardly matter! so the politicians gain two ways.
    islamic moderates can easily be coerced to follow the hardliners or they can be threatened to keep quiet. unless the bulk of the muslims (and this is where christian conversions to islam can play a leading role) try to change the tenets of islam to one of moderation there is no point in seeking comfort in the thought of muslim moderates remaining opposed to islamic fundamentalists.
    besides, there are more ‘islamists’ than ‘muslims’ in this world today. it is all a matter of power. more the followers more the power for saudi arabia and more can they bargain over oil prices.

  9. vasudev permalink
    October 9, 2010 10:19 pm

    babri masjid or ayodhya? i witnessed an enhanced bonhomie amongst hindus and muslims recently when both felt the hc decision was piff! well..sometimes piff works. until some muslim clergy came to the front to claim we will have babri at any cost. well..did they consult the moderates? they would have done better to say that we leave ayodhya, the mecca of the hindus, to the hindus. that would have been a graceful act. now i don’t know how many hardcore hindutvas they created!!!

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